[laughter] >> listen, i think in the debate last week, both president obama and mitt romney took that advice. people saw mitt romney being mitt romney, and they saw the president struggling as president obama. it is good advice. >> that is a strange thing coming off the worst defeat in presidential debate in history. he starts offering advice to his vice president. >> remember, he thought got the first day that he had one. so he is self delusional and at last a long time. >> how important is this debate tonight? you know, the vice presidential debates that i recall, with some enthusiasm, were terrific to watch. they had sparkly moments, but they didn't amount to a doggone thing in the outcome. >> every piece of the campaign is important. i do understand there is probably going to be a mix of foreign and domestic policy, and i think as the foreign policy goes, some of the current issues, certainly, that fiasco, the terrible tragedy in libya has got to be a part of the discussion. maybe they will even get into talking about -- i cannot imagine what they are trying to do. lou: it extends